Building new rig
04 Apr - 10:54
08 Apr - 08:29
After a zillion hours of reading and analyzing, I have to conclude that the Ryzen 5 1600X will be an amazing CPU for multitaskers and video editors but for someone like me who only uses the power of the pc for gaming it's not. If you are into that stuff, you should defenitly go for the 1800X as it beats Intel in everything hard (except gaming). Games don't use all the cores, only 2 to 4 (except BF1) and rely more a the power of a single core than the strength of the combination.
The 1600X will perform exactly as the 1800X in games as it is the same chip with 2 cores disabled. So even it's not yet released, we do have a good idea about what it will bring.
So in stead of buying a 250 EUR 1600X and a close to 200 EUR motherboard with X370 chip, I've spend my money differently. I bought a cheaper motherboard, one with a H270 chip. Why not the Z270 (Intel) or X370 (AMD): I don't overclock, I don't have 2 GPU's, I don't have alot of connections needed and I don't need fancy audio gold connectors, the latest realtek chip 1200 and some fancy audio software to improve the gaming experience. Cheaper means more budget for the next item:
I bought the Sennheiser GSX 1200 to do the great audio for me. So the only reason to have an expensive mobo, is now of the table. Indeed the GSX 1200 and not the 1000 like drunkmonk has. When we go to lan party, we can use the build in voice chat to reduce the delay. :) No that's not the reason. It was in promo and cheaper than any GSX 1000 I could find.
I bought a 200 EUR processor: the i5 7500. It's 50 EUR cheaper than the 1600X, so it opened budget for the sennheiser. It has same performance as the 6600K at stock rates but comes cheaper. The 7600 costs 40 extra for a few percent more performance, that doesn't validate the price of 20% extra. Same for the 7600K unless you are a master in overclock.
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650x : Amazon.de 110 EUR
CPU cooler: NZXT Kraken X62 : Tones.be 160 EUR
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR4-2400 CL16 kit : Codima.be 63 EUR
Case: NZXT H440 Black + red : Tones.be 125 EUR
CPU: i5 7500 : Amazon.de 200 EUR
Motherboard: Asus Prime H270-PRO : Cyberport.de 134 EUR
Sound: Sennheiser GSX 1200 PRO : Cyberport.de 211 EUR
Graphics card: I keep my GTX 970 till Vega benchmarks
SSD: I keep my 850 PRO 256GB and 850 EVO 256GB
Optical drive: I keep my Asus Blu-ray combo
External case for optical drive: Raidsonic ICY BOX : Megekko.nl 55 EUR
Only need to investigate if the watercooling CPU is worth the money. I haven't ordered yet. Feedback appreciated!
193 posts08 Apr - 13:00
Look forward to your feedback on the Senneiser GSX 1200. Should in theory be the same as the 1000, but as you say you can connect it up for LAN parties.
With regards to the watercooler, I know you said you don't OC, (and that's where a water cooler really comes into it's own), but even if you don't, replace the stock cooler that comes with your CPU. They are generally poor and noisy. Another reason for a water cooler is how much quieter your PC will run.
If you don't OC, then you can get a smaller rad, like a 120mm / 140mm cooler. Something like the NZXT Kraken X42 or the Corsair H80i V2 would be ideal. Both shoud fit in any case, not really great for heavy OC'ing, but will allow you to run your PC alot quieter than a fan cooler and if you wanted you could do a light OC.
Just my humble opinion anyway. Personally I would never now run my CPU without a water cooling solution. And these all in one solutions mean you never have to worry about maintentance, ie. no need to top the water up or anything like that.
08 Apr - 14:02
Reading alot of negative feedback on the corsair H100i v2, H110i and H115i. The stock fans are to noisy at performance setting.
If you ditch the led lights and go for silence and cool: be quiet!
Should I add a fan on top?
Front: 3 x 120mm FN V2 Fans Included
Top: 2x 140/3x120mm
Rear: 1 x 140mm FN V2 Fan Included
Top 2 x 140 or 3 x 120mm
If I attach the liquid radiator on top of 120mm or 240mm, I still have room to add one 120mm.